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	<title>Comments on: Public Employee Unions Don&#8217;t Get One Penny from Taxpayers (But the Big Lie That They Do Is Everywhere)</title>
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		<title>By: Michigan&#8217;s Radical Assault on Public Education Michigan&#8217;s Radical Assault on Public Education &#171; Grand Rapids Institute for Information Democracy</title>
		<link>http://dirtyhippies.org/2011/03/10/public-employee-unions-dont-get-one-penny-from-taxpayers-but-the-big-lie-that-they-do-is-everywhere/#comment-1160</link>
		<dc:creator>Michigan&#8217;s Radical Assault on Public Education Michigan&#8217;s Radical Assault on Public Education &#171; Grand Rapids Institute for Information Democracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 14:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (Right now, unions collect dues from all affected teachers—members or not—for bargaining, but can&#8217;t make them pay for political activities.) Richardville said right-to-teach legislation would let teachers [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (Right now, unions collect dues from all affected teachers—members or not—for bargaining, but can&#8217;t make them pay for political activities.) Richardville said right-to-teach legislation would let teachers [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Frances in California</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frances in California</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You union-buster-funded trolls really need to leave Josh alone and crawl back into the space under the bathroom sink where the Koch bros. keep their diamonds in that phony cleanser can.  The need for worker-solidarity is here, now; the freakin&#039; dues don&#039;t amount to a weekend&#039;s worth of beer per month.  While you&#039;re trying to kill Josh with the Thousand Cuts, your resources are being soaked up by the CEOs who - face it - do not care one wit about you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You union-buster-funded trolls really need to leave Josh alone and crawl back into the space under the bathroom sink where the Koch bros. keep their diamonds in that phony cleanser can.  The need for worker-solidarity is here, now; the freakin&#8217; dues don&#8217;t amount to a weekend&#8217;s worth of beer per month.  While you&#8217;re trying to kill Josh with the Thousand Cuts, your resources are being soaked up by the CEOs who &#8211; face it &#8211; do not care one wit about you.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Holland</title>
		<link>http://dirtyhippies.org/2011/03/10/public-employee-unions-dont-get-one-penny-from-taxpayers-but-the-big-lie-that-they-do-is-everywhere/#comment-225</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Holland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 18:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please read the entire article.  

No, it is not legal in any of the 50 states to force anyone to pay union &lt;i&gt;dues&lt;/i&gt; or to belong to a union.

You may be forced to pay your &quot;fair share&quot; of the &lt;i&gt;direct costs&lt;/i&gt; of representation, which I certainly think is fair as a majority of workers in your bargaining unit voted for representation and you get the same benefits they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please read the entire article.  </p>
<p>No, it is not legal in any of the 50 states to force anyone to pay union <i>dues</i> or to belong to a union.</p>
<p>You may be forced to pay your &#8220;fair share&#8221; of the <i>direct costs</i> of representation, which I certainly think is fair as a majority of workers in your bargaining unit voted for representation and you get the same benefits they do.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://dirtyhippies.org/2011/03/10/public-employee-unions-dont-get-one-penny-from-taxpayers-but-the-big-lie-that-they-do-is-everywhere/#comment-224</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 18:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/12/AR2010061200168.html

&quot;But under my state&#039;s law, I have to pay dues. Do you think this is fair?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/12/AR2010061200168.html">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/12/AR2010061200168.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;But under my state&#8217;s law, I have to pay dues. Do you think this is fair?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Holland</title>
		<link>http://dirtyhippies.org/2011/03/10/public-employee-unions-dont-get-one-penny-from-taxpayers-but-the-big-lie-that-they-do-is-everywhere/#comment-223</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Holland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 18:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, workers in unionized &quot;bargaining units&quot; can only be forced to pay a share of the &lt;i&gt;direct costs&lt;/i&gt; of their representation in some states.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, workers in unionized &#8220;bargaining units&#8221; can only be forced to pay a share of the <i>direct costs</i> of their representation in some states.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://dirtyhippies.org/2011/03/10/public-employee-unions-dont-get-one-penny-from-taxpayers-but-the-big-lie-that-they-do-is-everywhere/#comment-222</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 18:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;and no worker is forced to join a union against his or her wishes...&quot;

And no worker is forced to pay union dues, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;and no worker is forced to join a union against his or her wishes&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>And no worker is forced to pay union dues, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Holland</title>
		<link>http://dirtyhippies.org/2011/03/10/public-employee-unions-dont-get-one-penny-from-taxpayers-but-the-big-lie-that-they-do-is-everywhere/#comment-202</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Holland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2011 23:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is illegal under the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatch_Act_of_1939&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hatch act&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is illegal under the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatch_Act_of_1939">Hatch act</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz C. in Lee's Summit, MO</title>
		<link>http://dirtyhippies.org/2011/03/10/public-employee-unions-dont-get-one-penny-from-taxpayers-but-the-big-lie-that-they-do-is-everywhere/#comment-200</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz C. in Lee's Summit, MO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2011 22:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a retired federal employee and former AFL-CIO member.  In the Social Security Administration where I worked in Kansas City, MO, our union workers were alloted time off from their work duties to perform union duties from the union office in the building.  Wouldn&#039;t that count as taxpayer money paying their salaries while performing union duties?  Just curious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a retired federal employee and former AFL-CIO member.  In the Social Security Administration where I worked in Kansas City, MO, our union workers were alloted time off from their work duties to perform union duties from the union office in the building.  Wouldn&#8217;t that count as taxpayer money paying their salaries while performing union duties?  Just curious.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerbie</title>
		<link>http://dirtyhippies.org/2011/03/10/public-employee-unions-dont-get-one-penny-from-taxpayers-but-the-big-lie-that-they-do-is-everywhere/#comment-194</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please, don&#039;t confuse me with the facts, Archie Bunker, and in the real world lies are the manufacture of the very rich news speak outlets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please, don&#8217;t confuse me with the facts, Archie Bunker, and in the real world lies are the manufacture of the very rich news speak outlets.</p>
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		<title>By: greg</title>
		<link>http://dirtyhippies.org/2011/03/10/public-employee-unions-dont-get-one-penny-from-taxpayers-but-the-big-lie-that-they-do-is-everywhere/#comment-192</link>
		<dc:creator>greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2011 23:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your logic is truly astounding,  and from an accountant,  how do you function in life , it has to be a struggle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your logic is truly astounding,  and from an accountant,  how do you function in life , it has to be a struggle</p>
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